|   Neturei 
              Karta maintains its anti-Zionist stance   By Sharon Sadeh, Ha'aretz Correspondent
 June 16, 2002
    The pro-Palestinian groups in Britain have recently found a new 
              propaganda weapon in the form of an ultra-Orthodox sect whose activities 
              have turned the rest of the British Jewish community against it. 
             In the past few years, members of the extreme Neturei Karta movement 
              have increased their involvement in anti-Israeli activities, participating 
              in demonstrations calling for Israel's annihilation. The Jewish 
              community in Britain has responded by excommunicating the group, 
              banning its members from the country's synagogues.  Neturei Karta's most remarkable display was at the pro-Palestinian 
              rally held on May 18 in London's Trafalgar Square, two weeks after 
              a mass Israel solidarity in the same place.  "It was shocking to see these people wrapped in teffilin and 
              tallits [prayer shawls], waving signs against Israel and Zionism, 
              at an event deliberately held on a Saturday, during Shavuot, a feast 
              which commemorates the receiving of the Torah," said a spokesman 
              for the Board of Deputies, an umbrella group for the British Jewish 
              community.  "Someone asked them how they got to the demonstration, as 
              they are not supposed to travel on Shabbat, and they said they had 
              come on foot from Stamford Hill, 14 kilometers away."  "Don't worry, we didn't violate the Shabbat," says Avraham 
              Grohman, considered to be the leader of Neturei Karta in Britain. 
              He has become a popular lecturer in the past year among extreme 
              pro-Palestinian groups in Britain, including organizations affiliated 
              to Hamas.  Grohman told Ha'aretz that Neturei Karta supports the Palestinians 
              so that they "know that Jews are not fighting and are not creating 
              the problems for the Palestinians; it's the Zionists fault.  "We believe in the Torah, according to the Torah we have no 
              claim for that part of the world. We, the Jews, were thrown out 
              for our sins and for the worst deeds, and the exile is our remedy. 
              Jews have no right to take that land away from the Palestinians. 
              If somebody came to your house, and wanted to take it away from 
              you by force, what would you do? Would you let him go into your 
              house and take it away? No, you wouldn't."  Grohman disagrees that Neturei Karta's participation in Palestinian 
              demonstrations legitimizes suicide attacks.  "It's all stories and politics," he says. "No, it 
              is a fight! When somebody has ammunition to fight somebody else, 
              and the other does not have that ammunition, he will fight back 
              with just a stick, he has nothing else. Do you call the person with 
              a stick a terrorist? He fights with whatever he can! He cannot fight 
              with more than that. Who has more ammunition? Who has more F16s? 
              Do the Palestinians have F16 planes to bomb Tel Aviv, or do the 
              Zionists have F16 planes to bomb them?  "The fight is the fault of the Zionists and the Zionist state 
              who do not care about Jewish or Palestinian life. The suffering 
              and bloodshed will never stop as long as the Zionist state exists, 
              thanks to the influence of the Zionists on America and England." 
             Nor does Grohman acknowledge the fact that the Holocaust played 
              a part in the establishment of the State of Israel. "What Holocaust?" 
              he asks. "The Germans are the greatest friend of the Zionist 
              state, the biggest sum of money was given by the Germans for the 
              Zionist state."  Grohman even goes on to justify the slaughter of Jews in Europe, 
              claiming that they were responsible for their own fate.  "The Zionists helped to create and bring up anti-Semitism 
              in Germany," he says. "They also broke the economy of 
              Germany at that time, so what do you expect them to do?"  He claims that Neturei Karta plays an important part in maintaining 
              Britain's safety. "Because we are friendly with all the nations, 
              especially with the Palestinians, and many other Muslims, we are 
              actually reducing tensions and thus creating good relationship all 
              over the world. Without our deeds there would also have been these 
              problems in England a long time ago. The English would not have 
              been able to use the roads."  Grohman believes that his group has contributed to the safety of 
              Jews worldwide. "We got through to hundreds of Muslim newspapers, 
              who stopped using the term Jew. When they talk about those things 
              they don't say Jew, but Zionist."  Britain's Jewish community, however, is enraged by Neturei Karta 
              activities, with Britain's Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks slamming their 
              anti-Zionist slant.  "Recent actions of members of Neturei Karta in protesting 
              outside Jewish community events, together with groups hostile to 
              Israel and the Jewish community, are unforgivable," he declared.But 
              the community's dislike for the group does not end with expressions 
              of disapproval. Threats to Neturei Karta members have been reported; 
              their vehicles and property have been destroyed, and they have been 
              sacked from their places of work.  Grohman himself was attacked by a Braslav Hassidic Jew during a 
              counter-demonstration held by Palestinians opposite the Israel solidarity 
              rally at Trafalgar Square. Three weeks ago, one of the sect's synagogues 
              was attacked and its windows were spray-painted with Star of David 
              symbols.  The activities of the group have also angered ultra-Orthodox organizations 
              traditionally linked to Neturei Karta.  "Even the Satmer Hasidic movement, affiliated with Neturei 
              Karta, regards the activities of some of its members as crossing 
              a red line," said a Haredi source. "The Hasidic movement 
              is not a Zionist movement, but there is a difference between this 
              position and active support of an extreme stance that justifies 
              the murder of Jews, as expressed by Neturei Karta."  The ultra-Orthodox rabbinical court in London has taken an even 
              harsher stance against Neturei Karta. Last month, it distributed 
              a pamphlet in ultra-Orthodox synagogues similar to an FBI "most-wanted" 
              list.  The pamphlet showed close-up photographs of Neturei Karta members 
              taken during pro-Palestinian demonstrations. The caption on the 
              leaflet read: "Do you recognize any these pro-Palestinian demonstrators? 
              If they come collecting at your shul, tell them where to go - to 
              hell. 
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